tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post3809557936574817435..comments2023-04-04T11:00:28.668-05:00Comments on Gottesblog: Did You Know? Cremation is UnchristianFr BFEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14554699361739289492noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-61487106571565545822010-07-21T17:29:55.045-05:002010-07-21T17:29:55.045-05:00I don't know in what capacity you are serving,...I don't know in what capacity you are serving, so it's hard to answer. <br /><br />Of course, if you're a pastor, you shouldn't be burying someone who is no Christian.<br /><br />If you're the funeral director, you simply do what they ask you to do. <br /><br />If you're a family member, you might have occasion to influence the decision making process, and even if the Fr BFEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554699361739289492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-61539734589504633082010-07-21T11:43:17.660-05:002010-07-21T11:43:17.660-05:00What should one do if they are appointed to handle...What should one do if they are appointed to handle the arrangements in the event of the non-Christian's death?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-73845045636727041182009-11-01T19:31:46.804-06:002009-11-01T19:31:46.804-06:00The comments on this thread opposing cremation par...The comments on this thread opposing cremation parrot similar statements from Schmidt's book, which was not published by Concordia Publishing House (and subject to doctrinal review) but was published by <a href="http://www.reginaorthodoxpress.com/dutoduorasto.html" rel="nofollow">Regina Orthodox Press,</a> a producer of books on the false theology of the Eastern Church, which traditionally Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-88281980929529813822009-11-01T19:24:07.014-06:002009-11-01T19:24:07.014-06:00In mid-2005, on her now-defunct blog site, "I...In mid-2005, on her now-defunct blog site, "If you don't like it, just go away," Bunnie Diehl had a discussion of "Cremation vs. Burial," which also included excerpts from and comments on Alvin Schmidt's book, <i>Ashes to Ashes or Dust to Dust</i>. Thanks to <a href="http://www.archive.org" rel="nofollow">The Wayback Machine</a>, the several-weeks-worth of comments Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-73802153343883486822009-10-31T10:38:32.387-05:002009-10-31T10:38:32.387-05:00Remember that the notion that cremation is unchris...Remember that the notion that cremation is unchristian did not originate with me. There is some pretty palpable evidence that this was the settled opinion of all of Christendom throughout most of its history. Eusebius, etc.<br /><br />Organ donation is really another subject, I think; I'm not inclined to believe that it's desecration of my eyes if I give them to someone else so that he Fr BFEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554699361739289492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-63328181065572523342009-10-30T20:37:26.942-05:002009-10-30T20:37:26.942-05:00Fr. E.
I agree with you that the funeral should b...Fr. E.<br /><br />I agree with you that the funeral should be in the church. In the early 1960's my grandmother died after a lengthy stay in hospital. She had only two requests - to go home and to go to church. Much to my parents' dismay I insisted that the viewing was to take place in the family home, and the funeral service was to be in church. This was done to honor her own requests. Dcn. Muehlenbruchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12088586709685687573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-43346078838540851422009-10-30T14:59:21.608-05:002009-10-30T14:59:21.608-05:00I know I'm coming into this conversation late,...I know I'm coming into this conversation late, but I have to ask...what about organ donations? Think this one over.<br /><br />-VenkmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-9772012138026440752009-10-29T16:16:41.986-05:002009-10-29T16:16:41.986-05:00The burial of ashes is something I have in the pas...The burial of ashes is something I have in the past insisted upon when I couldn't influence the party against cremation, but as I rethink the whole thing, I confess to finding it a very poor fix.<br /><br />I know how prevalent the practice is, and so am not surprised to have caused some people to start, but I have come to believe nevertheless that it ought not be permitted by the Christian Fr BFEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554699361739289492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-63949960306394033682009-10-29T16:08:24.160-05:002009-10-29T16:08:24.160-05:00Folks, before we go any further the following view...Folks, before we go any further the following viewing is essential.<br /><br />I recommend viewing the motion picture with something to offend everyone … “The Loved One” starring Robert Morse and Jonathan Winters and a host of other well known stars such as Rod Steiger, Tab Hunter, James Coburn, Robert Morley, Liberace, etc. © 1965 by Warner Bros. (MGM originally)Cecil The Sea Sick Sea Serpenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13537345550560367967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-55982044963070527412009-10-29T13:15:23.536-05:002009-10-29T13:15:23.536-05:00Fr. E.
You note "but I guess what I'm th...Fr. E.<br /><br />You note "but I guess what I'm thinking about is the strong message that burying a body sends, and the strong contrary message that burning a body sends."<br /><br />Couldn't agree more. Plus it goofs up the liturgy.<br /><br />Pax,<br />Fr. J. W. BergJohn Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11914057522115207733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-13518102781144328802009-10-29T12:42:50.947-05:002009-10-29T12:42:50.947-05:00Cremation does initially seem to be somewhat contr...Cremation does initially seem to be somewhat contrary to Christian belief.<br /><br />However, The need for Christian burial can be satisfied by burying the ashes.<br /><br />Embalming,including draining the blood from a human body can be looked at as extremely pagan.<br /><br />As a funeral director I do both, and find both processes mitigating against Christian belief.<br /><br />The Lord will yourfuneralguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320896830523893056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-13410577015995598652009-10-29T12:18:42.607-05:002009-10-29T12:18:42.607-05:00I'll grant that the reason I am becoming more ...I'll grant that the reason I am becoming more inclined to make this a matter of conscience may indeed have something to do with the hardening of the arteries -- the older I get, the crustier I get -- but then again, when people resort to the "no Bible passage against it" argument, I'm led all the more to think I'm on the right road here.<br /><br />After all, there's no Fr BFEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554699361739289492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-23462762359427739162009-10-29T10:45:48.925-05:002009-10-29T10:45:48.925-05:00Father Eckardt,
Your usual impeccable logic has f...Father Eckardt,<br /><br />Your usual impeccable logic has failed you this time. (Which I attribute to your advancing age and dementia. Speaking of which, have you seen my pants, I can't find my pants...)<br /><br />First of all, a body, cremated or stuffed, will be buried, i.e. the cremated are not denied burial.<br /><br />Point 1. Cremation is normally the choice of the person who has John Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11914057522115207733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-70986134451969892742009-10-28T23:33:13.244-05:002009-10-28T23:33:13.244-05:00I certainly agree that burial is to be preferred o...I certainly agree that burial is to be preferred over cremation. However, cost is a very real problem for some. <br /><br />Then there is the theological point that what is not explicitly forbidden (cremation)or commanded (burial) is left free for the Christian to decide.<br /><br />All the Scripture you point to is descriptive, and certainly encourages burial. Still, I do not know of one passageMichael James Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06666000367238039443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-61786030802366306542009-10-28T17:42:35.066-05:002009-10-28T17:42:35.066-05:00Re my last comment ... I don't mean to be friv...Re my last comment ... I don't mean to be frivolous. I agree with you 100%. <br /><br />I think this is just one more example of how our beloved Lutheran church has capitulated to societal norms.David Clapperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04154925726200422347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-71455069791998429102009-10-28T17:41:16.848-05:002009-10-28T17:41:16.848-05:00I recall a story from one of the 19th century Norw...I recall a story from one of the 19th century Norwegians, Koren I believe. He disapproved of another pastor's officiating at the funeral of a crematee (?). The pastor said, "Well, many martyrs were burned, weren't they?" Koren replied, "Not at their own request!"David Clapperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04154925726200422347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-23426097817071474362009-10-28T17:33:06.567-05:002009-10-28T17:33:06.567-05:00At least the modern practice of embalming (as far ...At least the modern practice of embalming (as far as I know) doesn't imply the confession of pagan beliefs about the body--though admittedly there have historically been such associations.Kalebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12475086930201652194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-59520497285587075722009-10-28T17:29:20.485-05:002009-10-28T17:29:20.485-05:00Heaven knows I agree with you on the critique of c...Heaven knows I agree with you on the critique of cremation. My problem is that the practice of embalming as it is practiced today is really little better!ToddPeperkornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16170734854932272327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24933982.post-30482716577135785432009-10-28T17:28:52.946-05:002009-10-28T17:28:52.946-05:00Another reason some Christians think cremation is ...Another reason some Christians think cremation is okay, is that they are under the mistaken impression that the only "Christian" objection is a superstitious notion that a cremated body might not be resurrected.Kalebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12475086930201652194noreply@blogger.com